religion and politics don’t need to make sense

In my previous post I made the point that conservatives see politics as something that is open to debate while liberals see their own political beliefs as religious dogma that is not subject to debate. This is of course hardly original or startling although there are still conservatives who have failed to notice such an obvious fact.

There is something much more interesting that follows from this. Religion does not need to make sense. It is a matter of faith. You do not enter into debate on the subject. Rational argument is irrelevant to religious belief. It naturally follows that the same rule applies to any political ideology that functions as a substitute religion. Debate cannot be permitted.

What must be understood is that it’s not that liberals are unwilling to enter into political debate. They cannot do so. To do so would be to admit that their faith is subject to doubt. It would mean admitting that heretics might be right and the orthodox might be wrong.

The history of the decline of Christianity in the West provides compelling evidence that liberals are, from their point of view, quite correct in rejecting the possibility of discussion. They have a faith and they are satisfied with it. It gives them a reason to live, it gives them a feeling of moral superiority and it gives them a warm fuzzy emotional buzz. From their point of view their political religion works perfectly. The fact that it might make no sense at all and that it might all collapse like a house of cards if subjected to rational argument does not matter because they have no intention of allowing that to happen.

Conservatives just don’t get this. They still insist on assuming that politics is something that can be discussed and debated rationally. They still insist on thinking that political ideologies have to be logical and have to make sense.

This is why conservatism has failed. They can come up with impressive rational arguments in favour of their own economic and social policies but people don’t respond to rational arguments. People don’t decide how to vote based on rational arguments. They make such decisions based on emotions. If voting for a particular party makes them feel morally superior they will do so. If voting for a particular party gives them an emotional rush they will do so.

People do not vote based on a rational assessment of their own interests. There is nothing remotely rational about voting behaviour.

People do not choose their political beliefs by weighing up evidence. They choose the political beliefs that will make them feel good.

People need to feel that their lives have meaning. Choosing a political belief that is emotionally satisfying and that feels morally right helps to give a person the feeling that their life does have meaning and purpose.

Liberalism can only de fought and defeated by an opposing ideology that works the same way – an ideology that appeals to the emotions, that makes a person feel that they are fighting for something good and worthwhile, that feels morally right and that gives meaning to the life of those who believe in it.

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15 comments on “religion and politics don’t need to make sense

  1. are you calling for white wahhabism, brother? I'm in

  2. It is, in fact, an incredibly accurate metaphor, because if you take a glance at any “gender studies” text, you would immediately assume that it is a pseudo-religious text, not even a pseudo-scientific one.

    >>Liberalism can only de fought and defeated by an opposing ideology that works the same way – an ideology that appeals to the emotions, that makes a person feel that they are fighting for something good and worthwhile, that feels morally right and that gives meaning to the life of those who believe in it.

    In that respect, what do you think about Paul Joseph Watson's claim that conservatism is the new counterculture, and that the new generation is the most conservative in the last decades?

  3. dfordoom says:

    what do you think about Paul Joseph Watson's claim that conservatism is the new counterculture, and that the new generation is the most conservative in the last decades?

    I think that whatever he's smoking it must be really good stuff.

    Of course it all depends on how you define conservatism. If you define conservatism as support for tax cuts, lots of wars, personal selfishness, mindless hedonism, militant secularism, and support for sodomy, promiscuity and cultural degeneracy, then conservatism is indeed doing spectacularly well amongst the young.

    And that is the way most mainstream conservatives these days define conservatism.

    But I assume he's thinking of the embrace of the alt-right among the young. In which case he's even more deluded.

  4. dfordoom says:

    are you calling for white wahhabism, brother?

    It might be the only thing that works. Certainly nothing else has looked like working.

  5. Well, the claimed that Cultural Marxism can't be mainstream and counterculture at the same time, and he sees lots of anti-liberal youngsters all the time, so he supposes that conservatism is the new counterculture.

  6. dfordoom says:

    he claimed that Cultural Marxism can't be mainstream and counterculture at the same time

    That makes sense. Although, thanks to their absolute control of the megaphone, the cultural marxists have done a remarkably good job of giving the impression that they're actually rebels struggling against the conservative establishment. It's absurd but a lot of people seem to buy it.

    and he sees lots of anti-liberal youngsters all the time, so he supposes that conservatism is the new counterculture.

    I wonder where he sees these anti-liberal youngsters? I wonder if he's seeing a few high-profile conservative youngsters on the internet and making the mistake of thinking they're a lot more numerous than they really are.

  7. He says he constantly receives tons of messages from youngsters who thank him for opening their eyes on Cultural Marxism and all that degeneracy, and how they all share his views on the subject.

  8. Shaun F says:

    “People need to feel that their lives have meaning. Choosing a political belief that is emotionally satisfying and that feels morally right helps to give a person the feeling that their life does have meaning and purpose.” I agree with this. However, like an alcoholic riding the drunken rollercoaster of self-deception until the inevitable crash comes, leftists are gonna get the same thing. Point being when build your life on a lie – it catches up, and it doesn't end well. And secular humanist atheism is a big lie. Just look at all the blue haired medicated overweight single females with cats and rejoice! For you reap what you sow.

  9. dfordoom says:

    He says he constantly receives tons of messages from youngsters who thank him for opening their eyes on Cultural Marxism and all that degeneracy, and how they all share his views on the subject.

    Oh OK, it's what I figured. It's anecdotal evidence inflated by a great deal of wishful thinking. You see a lot of that among alt-righters. They'll tell you that the current generation of kids is totally based and you find out that their evidence comes from two or three kids that they happen to know.

    I know that it's important to keep thinking positively but you have to be realistic as well.

  10. What do you think of Jordan Peterson?

  11. James Higham says:

    Yep, faith is what it’s about.

  12. dfordoom says:

    What do you think of Jordan Peterson?

    I really know almost nothing about him. Isn't he basically a liberal?

  13. I'm not so sure about that, but he fights Cultural Marxists intensely and smartly, and they hate him just as intensely and mindlessly.

  14. dfordoom says:

    I'm not so sure about that, but he fights Cultural Marxists intensely and smartly, and they hate him just as intensely and mindlessly.

    I'll have to look into his stuff.

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